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	<title>Comments on: Gospel Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the New PH/RS Manual</title>
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		<title>By: Eric Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, there&#039;s always reason #5: Whether the lessons are slightly better or worse doesn&#039;t really matter because 80% of the class is still just thinking about getting home to eat and watch some football.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, there&#8217;s always reason #5: Whether the lessons are slightly better or worse doesn&#8217;t really matter because 80% of the class is still just thinking about getting home to eat and watch some football.</p>
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		<title>By: Sterling Fluharty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sterling Fluharty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will some repetition for investigators and new members, but perhaps not of the kind you are imagining.  RS &amp; MP will study GP twice a month, taking two years to proceed through the manual.  The second-hour GP class will study a lesson every week, completing the manual in the time it takes a new member to prepare for the temple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will some repetition for investigators and new members, but perhaps not of the kind you are imagining.  RS &amp; MP will study GP twice a month, taking two years to proceed through the manual.  The second-hour GP class will study a lesson every week, completing the manual in the time it takes a new member to prepare for the temple.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What will the investigators be taught from during Sunday School, or will they receive a double dose of GP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What will the investigators be taught from during Sunday School, or will they receive a double dose of GP?</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 07:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent points Matt, I agree completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points Matt, I agree completely.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 06:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In defense of the old manuals often there were some interesting lessons.  I loved the one with letters to Emma from Joseph.

While I like the idea of the Gospel Principles manual the fact is you already get lessons from that in gospel essentials.  Why not change things there.  

What I&#039;d much rather see is a serious rethinking of how Gospel Doctrine class is taught.  Now that is one peolecstruggle with - far more than the PH manuals of late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In defense of the old manuals often there were some interesting lessons.  I loved the one with letters to Emma from Joseph.</p>
<p>While I like the idea of the Gospel Principles manual the fact is you already get lessons from that in gospel essentials.  Why not change things there.  </p>
<p>What I&#8217;d much rather see is a serious rethinking of how Gospel Doctrine class is taught.  Now that is one peolecstruggle with &#8211; far more than the PH manuals of late.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sterling, that quote is great, except for the &quot;what do they need to know&quot; part.  Teaching in the Church is rarely, if ever, about information transfer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sterling, that quote is great, except for the &#8220;what do they need to know&#8221; part.  Teaching in the Church is rarely, if ever, about information transfer.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the prophets manuals, I had to start preparing a week in advance. After reading the chapter, I&#039;d complain about the manual for half a week and then prepare the lesson for half the week. Now I&#039;ll need two weeks: one to complain and another to prepare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the prophets manuals, I had to start preparing a week in advance. After reading the chapter, I&#8217;d complain about the manual for half a week and then prepare the lesson for half the week. Now I&#8217;ll need two weeks: one to complain and another to prepare.</p>
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		<title>By: Sterling Fluharty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sterling Fluharty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am hoping this new manual will be instrumental in transforming our teaching in the church.  It has me thinking about my favorite passage from Teaching, No Greater Call:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
A skilled teacher doesn’t think, ‘What shall I do in class today?’ but asks, ‘What will my students do in class today?’; not, ‘What will I teach today?’ but rather, ‘How will I help my students discover what they need to know?’
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

By reducing the amount of material in each chapter, there is a good chance that teachers will talk less and instead spend more time encouraging participation from their students.

I noticed that Julie M. Smith wished that &quot;more penetrating, thought-provoking questions had been included.&quot;  I actually think we are being tested with the sparse lesson material: will our teachers rise to the challenge and, with the guidance of the Spirit, generate and ask good questions?

The thing that probably excites me the most about these new manuals is the unparalleled opportunity they provide for us to study discrete gospel topics in a holistic manner.  With each new lesson, we will no longer be limited to what just one prophet said about the particular principle.  We will be able to dive into the scriptures and prophetic teachings and then pull together what has been said and revealed for each doctrine.  Perhaps the big test will be to see whether we really have a theology or merely an assortment of loosely-connected statements and scriptural passages.  And as we try to fit the pieces together, and probe the meanings and applicability of our sacred texts, I can&#039;t wait to see what my students and I can learn from each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am hoping this new manual will be instrumental in transforming our teaching in the church.  It has me thinking about my favorite passage from Teaching, No Greater Call:</p>
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A skilled teacher doesn’t think, ‘What shall I do in class today?’ but asks, ‘What will my students do in class today?’; not, ‘What will I teach today?’ but rather, ‘How will I help my students discover what they need to know?’
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<p>By reducing the amount of material in each chapter, there is a good chance that teachers will talk less and instead spend more time encouraging participation from their students.</p>
<p>I noticed that Julie M. Smith wished that &#8220;more penetrating, thought-provoking questions had been included.&#8221;  I actually think we are being tested with the sparse lesson material: will our teachers rise to the challenge and, with the guidance of the Spirit, generate and ask good questions?</p>
<p>The thing that probably excites me the most about these new manuals is the unparalleled opportunity they provide for us to study discrete gospel topics in a holistic manner.  With each new lesson, we will no longer be limited to what just one prophet said about the particular principle.  We will be able to dive into the scriptures and prophetic teachings and then pull together what has been said and revealed for each doctrine.  Perhaps the big test will be to see whether we really have a theology or merely an assortment of loosely-connected statements and scriptural passages.  And as we try to fit the pieces together, and probe the meanings and applicability of our sacred texts, I can&#8217;t wait to see what my students and I can learn from each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Henrichsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Henrichsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting to see how the bloggernacle is really driving a lot of the religion coverage in the SLTrib and the DesNews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting to see how the bloggernacle is really driving a lot of the religion coverage in the SLTrib and the DesNews.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt I think you make a good argument in point number 2.  I know the Presidents of the Church manuals are not supposed to be read word for word but they sometimes are.  I really enjoy those manuals myself but it is good to have some variety.  Periodically, it&#039;s valuable to not rely so much on what Brigham Young, Spencer W. Kimball, etc says about a certain topic, valuable as their teachings are.  It is also good to talk about how YOU understand the principles of the gospel.  How do they effect your life and the life of the members of your ward.  It&#039;s not the only way to approach the gosel but it is a very valuable angle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt I think you make a good argument in point number 2.  I know the Presidents of the Church manuals are not supposed to be read word for word but they sometimes are.  I really enjoy those manuals myself but it is good to have some variety.  Periodically, it&#8217;s valuable to not rely so much on what Brigham Young, Spencer W. Kimball, etc says about a certain topic, valuable as their teachings are.  It is also good to talk about how YOU understand the principles of the gospel.  How do they effect your life and the life of the members of your ward.  It&#8217;s not the only way to approach the gosel but it is a very valuable angle.</p>
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