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		<title>By: Kent (MC)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent (MC)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the book “Stumbling on Happiness” and it did make me happy in some respects. I found many of the mental fallacies that humans succumb to be fascinating and I realized that I really do not want to get trapped by them; though I occasionally do. So this book doesn&#039;t really contain very many practical recommendations besides &quot;be aware of how your brain will trick you.&quot; I really did enjoy the book and recommend it warmly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the book “Stumbling on Happiness” and it did make me happy in some respects. I found many of the mental fallacies that humans succumb to be fascinating and I realized that I really do not want to get trapped by them; though I occasionally do. So this book doesn&#8217;t really contain very many practical recommendations besides &#8220;be aware of how your brain will trick you.&#8221; I really did enjoy the book and recommend it warmly.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob, thanks for this post. I was most fascinated by his finding regarding commitment: when students were given the chance to change their minds regarding which photograph they chose, they ended up being less happy (though they predicted they would be more happy). I think the implications of this for marital commitment are particularly intriguing. 

Anyway, I tracked down the article that documents these findings and, since it took some work, I thought I&#039;d post the title and abstract here:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Decisions and Revisions: The Affective Forecasting of Changeable Outcomes&quot; by Daniel T. Gilbert and Jane E. J. Ebert 

Abstract: People prefer to make changeable decisions rather than unchangeable decisions because they do not realize that they may be more satisfied with the latter. Photography students believed that having the opportunity to change their minds about which prints to keep would not influence their liking of the prints. However, those who had the opportunity to change their minds liked their prints less than those who did not (Study 1). Although the opportunity to change their minds impaired the postdecisional processes that normally promote satisfaction (Study 2a), most participants wanted to have that opportunity (Study 2b). The results demonstrate that errors in affective forecasting can lead people to behave in ways that do not optimize their happiness and well-being.

Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, Volume 82(4), April 2002, p 503–514)&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob, thanks for this post. I was most fascinated by his finding regarding commitment: when students were given the chance to change their minds regarding which photograph they chose, they ended up being less happy (though they predicted they would be more happy). I think the implications of this for marital commitment are particularly intriguing. </p>
<p>Anyway, I tracked down the article that documents these findings and, since it took some work, I thought I&#8217;d post the title and abstract here:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Decisions and Revisions: The Affective Forecasting of Changeable Outcomes&#8221; by Daniel T. Gilbert and Jane E. J. Ebert </p>
<p>Abstract: People prefer to make changeable decisions rather than unchangeable decisions because they do not realize that they may be more satisfied with the latter. Photography students believed that having the opportunity to change their minds about which prints to keep would not influence their liking of the prints. However, those who had the opportunity to change their minds liked their prints less than those who did not (Study 1). Although the opportunity to change their minds impaired the postdecisional processes that normally promote satisfaction (Study 2a), most participants wanted to have that opportunity (Study 2b). The results demonstrate that errors in affective forecasting can lead people to behave in ways that do not optimize their happiness and well-being.</p>
<p>Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, Volume 82(4), April 2002, p 503–514)</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jacob J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill B, that makes a lot of sense.  I like your tie in to the paradox of losing your life in order to find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill B, that makes a lot of sense.  I like your tie in to the paradox of losing your life in order to find it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Dan Gilbert’s book a few weeks ago and came to similar conclusions about what he was saying as were expressed in #13.  Another major piece of advice he gives is that the most reliable way of predicting if we will be happy doing a certain thing is to ask other people who are currently doing the same thing if they are happy.  He did not address the possibility that those people you talk to who are happy now may eventually reap unhappy consequences from their actions.  But I have a theory about happiness which agrees with some of the points he makes in his book.  My theory, which was formed through contemplation of personal experience, is that the pursuit of happiness itself is a major cause of unhappiness.  There seems to be a triple whammy to it: 1) pursuing happiness often encourages us to focus on the aspects of our lives that are not happy, which magnifies any unhappiness in our minds (which is the only place happiness really exists), 2) the pursuit of happiness causes us to be too busy to take the time to enjoy the unanticipated happy moments when we stumble upon them, and 3) since we are terrible at predicting what will make us happy, when we get what we want we are usually in for a let-down.  Perhaps this helps explain the results of Gilbert’s picture experiment.

To make a very long story short, my personal experience with temporarily giving up the pursuit of happiness 11 years ago is as follows.  Having focused on my personal pursuit of happiness for years, having gotten everything I wanted, and realizing that I was more miserable than ever, I decided that happiness was a pipedream and that I would ignore it and concentrate on living my life the way I believed was right, regardless of whether that made me happy.  Six months later, I realized I was happier than I had ever been.  Unfortunately, it seems to be hard for me to permanently stay off the pursuit-of-happiness treadmill, because having gotten a taste of happiness, I want more.  However, my experience does back up Christ’s statement that by losing our life in the service of our fellow men we find it. 
 
I doubt Dan Gilbert could get a book published these days that tells people as blatantly as I just did to ignore happiness, but he did manage to get one published that subtly tells them to ignore happiness.  However, he does say in the book that he expects no one will take the advice he offers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Dan Gilbert’s book a few weeks ago and came to similar conclusions about what he was saying as were expressed in #13.  Another major piece of advice he gives is that the most reliable way of predicting if we will be happy doing a certain thing is to ask other people who are currently doing the same thing if they are happy.  He did not address the possibility that those people you talk to who are happy now may eventually reap unhappy consequences from their actions.  But I have a theory about happiness which agrees with some of the points he makes in his book.  My theory, which was formed through contemplation of personal experience, is that the pursuit of happiness itself is a major cause of unhappiness.  There seems to be a triple whammy to it: 1) pursuing happiness often encourages us to focus on the aspects of our lives that are not happy, which magnifies any unhappiness in our minds (which is the only place happiness really exists), 2) the pursuit of happiness causes us to be too busy to take the time to enjoy the unanticipated happy moments when we stumble upon them, and 3) since we are terrible at predicting what will make us happy, when we get what we want we are usually in for a let-down.  Perhaps this helps explain the results of Gilbert’s picture experiment.</p>
<p>To make a very long story short, my personal experience with temporarily giving up the pursuit of happiness 11 years ago is as follows.  Having focused on my personal pursuit of happiness for years, having gotten everything I wanted, and realizing that I was more miserable than ever, I decided that happiness was a pipedream and that I would ignore it and concentrate on living my life the way I believed was right, regardless of whether that made me happy.  Six months later, I realized I was happier than I had ever been.  Unfortunately, it seems to be hard for me to permanently stay off the pursuit-of-happiness treadmill, because having gotten a taste of happiness, I want more.  However, my experience does back up Christ’s statement that by losing our life in the service of our fellow men we find it. </p>
<p>I doubt Dan Gilbert could get a book published these days that tells people as blatantly as I just did to ignore happiness, but he did manage to get one published that subtly tells them to ignore happiness.  However, he does say in the book that he expects no one will take the advice he offers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the recommendations Ziff.  Schwartz has a TEDTalk I may be using in a future installment of this series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the recommendations Ziff.  Schwartz has a TEDTalk I may be using in a future installment of this series.</p>
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		<title>By: Ziff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ziff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post, Jacob.

I really enjoyed Gilbert&#039;s book. I like TStevens&#039;s summary. One other point that stuck out to me was that, when making decisions, we tend to overestimate our own uniqueness and therefore undervalue the opinions of other people who have faced similar decisions. So this might seem obvious, but he suggests that if we&#039;re facing a tough decision, we might profit from asking someone else who faced a similar one.

Also, regarding closing off choices, I also read a wonderful little book by Barry Schwartz called &quot;The Paradox of Choice.&quot; Schwartz argues, as Prisoner #Unknown put it so well above, that in most circumstances, we don&#039;t have the time or resources to make an optimal choices, so we end up being happier if we make a &quot;good enough&quot; or satisficing choice. Schwartz also hits the point about irreversible decisions making us happier than ones in which we try to hold our options open.

I recommend both books. Both writers are very good at making their points in clear and interesting ways. Gilbert in particular also made me laugh out loud several times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, Jacob.</p>
<p>I really enjoyed Gilbert&#8217;s book. I like TStevens&#8217;s summary. One other point that stuck out to me was that, when making decisions, we tend to overestimate our own uniqueness and therefore undervalue the opinions of other people who have faced similar decisions. So this might seem obvious, but he suggests that if we&#8217;re facing a tough decision, we might profit from asking someone else who faced a similar one.</p>
<p>Also, regarding closing off choices, I also read a wonderful little book by Barry Schwartz called &#8220;The Paradox of Choice.&#8221; Schwartz argues, as Prisoner #Unknown put it so well above, that in most circumstances, we don&#8217;t have the time or resources to make an optimal choices, so we end up being happier if we make a &#8220;good enough&#8221; or satisficing choice. Schwartz also hits the point about irreversible decisions making us happier than ones in which we try to hold our options open.</p>
<p>I recommend both books. Both writers are very good at making their points in clear and interesting ways. Gilbert in particular also made me laugh out loud several times.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It ought to be mentioned that the gospel principles apply - they may not cure all your problems, nor guarantee the type of cheer that stereotype dictates should result from righteous behavior. But of the things that can be done to increase your sense of happiness and peace, gratitude and hope founded in faith and inspiration have to rank very near the top.

  The other thing worth mentioning is the knowledge that you are conducting your life in a manner worthy of honor, respect, and divine approval, even if you have fallen far short of those standards in the past, and respect sometimes seems in short supply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It ought to be mentioned that the gospel principles apply &#8211; they may not cure all your problems, nor guarantee the type of cheer that stereotype dictates should result from righteous behavior. But of the things that can be done to increase your sense of happiness and peace, gratitude and hope founded in faith and inspiration have to rank very near the top.</p>
<p>  The other thing worth mentioning is the knowledge that you are conducting your life in a manner worthy of honor, respect, and divine approval, even if you have fallen far short of those standards in the past, and respect sometimes seems in short supply.</p>
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		<title>By: TStevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>TStevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He gives the example about missing a train.  We tend to get angry because we have predicted the only way we will be happy is if we had made it, thus we miss all the opportunities for happiness that could have been ours.  So never run for a train.

Think about how you met your spouse - well planned event or a delightful accident (I am assuming that the spousal relationship is happy).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He gives the example about missing a train.  We tend to get angry because we have predicted the only way we will be happy is if we had made it, thus we miss all the opportunities for happiness that could have been ours.  So never run for a train.</p>
<p>Think about how you met your spouse &#8211; well planned event or a delightful accident (I am assuming that the spousal relationship is happy).</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kent, please do report back on the book when your done.  I&#039;ll be interested.  

TStevens, from your description, the book sounds pretty good.  If we undermine our actual happiness because we are totally wrong in our predictions about what will make us happy, that does seem like a tractable problem, which means we could all get better at being happy.  Cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent, please do report back on the book when your done.  I&#8217;ll be interested.  </p>
<p>TStevens, from your description, the book sounds pretty good.  If we undermine our actual happiness because we are totally wrong in our predictions about what will make us happy, that does seem like a tractable problem, which means we could all get better at being happy.  Cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rp (#2), great example, I think that&#039;s right on.

Peter (#8), thanks, that was the connection I was missing.

Prisoner, thanks for the interesting comment.  I think you&#039;re correct that there is a lot of &quot;milling around.&quot;  As to counter tops and carpet colors, I don&#039;t think these fit very well into your DESTRUCTIVE and CREATIVE categories because they don&#039;t have any real moral significance.  It is just that certain ways of approaching these kinds of decisions will lead more easily to be ultimately happy with our decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rp (#2), great example, I think that&#8217;s right on.</p>
<p>Peter (#8), thanks, that was the connection I was missing.</p>
<p>Prisoner, thanks for the interesting comment.  I think you&#8217;re correct that there is a lot of &#8220;milling around.&#8221;  As to counter tops and carpet colors, I don&#8217;t think these fit very well into your DESTRUCTIVE and CREATIVE categories because they don&#8217;t have any real moral significance.  It is just that certain ways of approaching these kinds of decisions will lead more easily to be ultimately happy with our decision.</p>
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