Comments on: Mad Max Mormonism vs. Star Trek Mormonism

By: Riley

Riley — Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:28:21 +0000

To me it’s an outward optimisim guarding an inward realism that things are going to get bad. does it mean they it has to get bad? No, not if we are genuinely free. But I do tend to look at the scriptures and modern day prophets as prepairing us for the world to get Mad Maxish. Now whether it is a teaching ploy, like a parent scaring their kid into neing a certain way, I don’t know. I’d like to both hope not and hope so.

By: Geoff J

Geoff J — Thu, 21 Oct 2010 01:55:09 +0000

Mormonism has always been "very humanistic"

By: jd

jd — Thu, 21 Oct 2010 01:38:16 +0000

Mormonism has always required people to think in dualistic terms. Pres. Hinckley said we are an optimistic people. Pres. Young said if 3/4 of the world would repent, the Lord would throw out all the latter-day judgments. We can look at Jonas who was commanded to preach repentance to Ninevah, and he wouldn’t because he was certain they were too awful to repent. There’s definitely a lesson there.

On the other hand, the scriptures do abundantly say the judgments will be BAD. There are both public and private accounts of dreams and visions of these judgments, and there’s no denying that things are going to get truly rough.

Mormons are commanded to preach and warn of the day of desolation and abomination. We are to stand in holy places – and learn to be holy.

And make no mistake, the Lord does want to come, and He does appear to some already. He wants to visit and dwell with His people. He made frequent appearances to the Nephites. The 4 generations of Nephites were even acquainted with the Father because of their righteousness. This is how things are meant to be, and to believe that Jesus does not wish to be amongst us is apostate thinking. I do think it’s fair to say he’d rather come in joy to all than in burning.

And Star Trek is very humanistic. They preach that technology will solve our problems, which is Babylonian thinking and what the builders of the Tower of Babel intended. Technology is not our savior, Jesus is.

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 13:40:01 +0000

I’m a 100 % Mad Max Mormon…

Ether, Chapter 8

22 And whatsoever nation shall uphold such secret combinations, to get power and gain, until they shall spread over the nation, behold, they shall be destroyed; for the Lord will not suffer that the blood of his saints, which shall be shed by them, shall always cry unto him from the ground for vengeance upon them and yet he avenge them not.
23 Wherefore, O ye Gentiles, it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get apower and gain—and the work, yea, even the work of destruction come upon you, yea, even the sword of the justice of the Eternal God shall fall upon you, to your overthrow and destruction if ye shall suffer these things to be.
24 Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this asecret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up.
25 For it cometh to pass that whoso buildeth it up seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries; and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people, for it is built up by the devil, who is the father of all lies; even that same liar who beguiled our first parents, yea, even that same liar who hath caused man to commit murder from the beginning; who hath hardened the hearts of men that they have murdered the prophets, and stoned them, and cast them out from the beginning.

By: John Roberts

John Roberts — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:13:08 +0000

I’d have to classify myself as a wee bit of both. I think it’s going to get really bad, then it’ll get better. Then, in STAR TREK fashion, some of will get to join the Q Continuum, whilst others don red, blue and gold shirts and traverse the universe. And for the really bad people? Ferengi….

Helm…take us out, warp eight!

By: Arwen

Arwen — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:21:29 +0000

I would like to sign up for the Star Trek Mormon program please. And I would also be interested in the LOTR program if anyone has details. I really want to dress like one of the elves in the movies.

I never posted on here before, thanks for having a site I can relate to without wanting to give up in despair by the end of reading the comment section. And thanks especially for mentioning Glenn Beck in a non-flattering way–we have a cult dedicated to him in my ward and it makes me quite agitated but I keep it to myself.

By: stephen

stephen — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:16:41 +0000

I lean toward the Mad-Maxian view, however I am not looking forward to wearing studded black briefs and half a football shoulder pad.

By: BrianJ

BrianJ — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:34:36 +0000

a Star Trek future but a Mad Mad end

Well, Mad Max was the ultimate Christ figure, so that’d be appropriate.

By: Geoff J

Geoff J — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:36:07 +0000

Now that I think about it — I suppose that if the second coming happened thousands of years from now we could sort of go for the “both” answer. So let’s say humanity works it out for the next few thousand years and creates a near-utopia Star-Trek-like society during that time. But let’s say eventually things break down and Jesus has to return to clean things up in, say, the year 5485 AD. That would be an example of a Star Trek future but a Mad Mad end I guess.

By: Trevor

Trevor — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:28:11 +0000

Can a prophecy or revelation be stopped, or just prolonged? (Speaking of the horror before Christ’s return.) In order to be a prophecy, it must take place, or it is not prophecy. True a prophecy can be fluid and be prolonged depending upon the action of the people, but ultimately sooner or later the prophecy will happen. Now, I’m not talking about warning/consequence prophecies (if you do this, this is the outcome)- these types of prophecies can be stopped, so long as you not do what it is that will cause the neg. consequence (by not heeding the warning). The prophecies of the wickedness and horrors before christ return and the eventual return of Christ will take place, it may be prolonged, but not stopped.