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		<title>By: mfranti</title>
		<link>http://www.newcoolthang.com/index.php/2008/11/the-obamanation-of-desolation/576/comment-page-1/#comment-270354</link>
		<dc:creator>mfranti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I think that Emanuel is likely to be the axe man against liberal Democrats so as to keep the House and Senate in line. That is Obama recognizes the problem of a very liberal congress that might wish to pass legislation that would hurt Obama politically.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

very good point! i&#039;m tired of the kids fighting. if there&#039;s a good nany in the house, they might learn to play nice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think that Emanuel is likely to be the axe man against liberal Democrats so as to keep the House and Senate in line. That is Obama recognizes the problem of a very liberal congress that might wish to pass legislation that would hurt Obama politically.</p></blockquote>
<p>very good point! i&#8217;m tired of the kids fighting. if there&#8217;s a good nany in the house, they might learn to play nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jettboy,

I agree that conservatives shouldn&#039;t just fall over.  However, payback is not much of a political philosophy.  Effective opposition to President-elect Obama&#039;s questionable policies must be based on conviction and principle, i.e. the so called &quot;loyal opposition&quot; or it will do the country more harm than good.

There was certainly plenty of room for people to have principled disagreements with President Bush&#039;s policies.  But the &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; helped no one.  Neither did Clinton Derangement Syndrome.  Obama Derangement Syndrome won&#039;t help anybody either.  I think we have had enough of the paranoid style in American politics for a while.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jettboy,</p>
<p>I agree that conservatives shouldn&#8217;t just fall over.  However, payback is not much of a political philosophy.  Effective opposition to President-elect Obama&#8217;s questionable policies must be based on conviction and principle, i.e. the so called &#8220;loyal opposition&#8221; or it will do the country more harm than good.</p>
<p>There was certainly plenty of room for people to have principled disagreements with President Bush&#8217;s policies.  But the &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; helped no one.  Neither did Clinton Derangement Syndrome.  Obama Derangement Syndrome won&#8217;t help anybody either.  I think we have had enough of the paranoid style in American politics for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Emanuel actually is fairly centrist for a Democrat.  Remember he was the &quot;axe man&quot; for both NAFTA and welfare reform and irritated a lot of Democrats.  While I don&#039;t think this speaks well for the tone I think many expected Obama to take I think that Emanuel is likely to be the axe man &lt;i&gt;against liberal Democrats&lt;/i&gt; so as to keep the House and Senate in line.  That is Obama recognizes the problem of a very liberal congress that might wish to pass legislation that would hurt Obama politically.  (Especially since Obama is likely to have most of his focus on foreign policy and simply won&#039;t have the time to focus on what congress is doing)

I might well be wrong but I think Emanuel will have as his primary function not alienating and subjecting Republicans as the liberal version of Tom Delay but rather in keeping Democrats from passing every liberal wish list regardless of consequences.  (As many very liberal Democrats have been voicing the past few days)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emanuel actually is fairly centrist for a Democrat.  Remember he was the &#8220;axe man&#8221; for both NAFTA and welfare reform and irritated a lot of Democrats.  While I don&#8217;t think this speaks well for the tone I think many expected Obama to take I think that Emanuel is likely to be the axe man <i>against liberal Democrats</i> so as to keep the House and Senate in line.  That is Obama recognizes the problem of a very liberal congress that might wish to pass legislation that would hurt Obama politically.  (Especially since Obama is likely to have most of his focus on foreign policy and simply won&#8217;t have the time to focus on what congress is doing)</p>
<p>I might well be wrong but I think Emanuel will have as his primary function not alienating and subjecting Republicans as the liberal version of Tom Delay but rather in keeping Democrats from passing every liberal wish list regardless of consequences.  (As many very liberal Democrats have been voicing the past few days)</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True dat Clark.  I think your point is a good one.  Putting some anti-science knucklehead in charge of the EPA sounds like a horrible idea to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True dat Clark.  I think your point is a good one.  Putting some anti-science knucklehead in charge of the EPA sounds like a horrible idea to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTW, that story in the Rahm Emanuel wikipedia article about how he got the nick-name Rahm-bo is classic.

&lt;blockquote&gt;On the night after the 1996 election, &quot;Emanuel was so angry at the president&#039;s enemies that he stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign, grabbed a steak knife and began rattling off a list of betrayers, shouting &#039;Dead! ... Dead! ... Dead!&#039; and plunging the knife into the table after every name.&quot;[2] His &quot;take-no-prisoners attitude&quot; earned him the nickname &quot;Rahm-bo&quot;.[14]&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, that story in the Rahm Emanuel wikipedia article about how he got the nick-name Rahm-bo is classic.</p>
<blockquote><p>On the night after the 1996 election, &#8220;Emanuel was so angry at the president&#8217;s enemies that he stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign, grabbed a steak knife and began rattling off a list of betrayers, shouting &#8216;Dead! &#8230; Dead! &#8230; Dead!&#8217; and plunging the knife into the table after every name.&#8221;[2] His &#8220;take-no-prisoners attitude&#8221; earned him the nickname &#8220;Rahm-bo&#8221;.[14]</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jacob J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mfranti,

&lt;em&gt;so what is is about him you donâ€™t like? &lt;/em&gt;

Not sure who you&#039;re asking, but I don&#039;t have anything against Rahm Emanuel specifically.  I said he is not my favorite guy, by which I meant that he is a liberal and I am a conservative.  I do like the family duties comment and I&#039;m ready to give him a chance.  As Eric Russell intimated, I think it may be a good thing if he is in there when Israel is on the line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mfranti,</p>
<p><em>so what is is about him you donâ€™t like? </em></p>
<p>Not sure who you&#8217;re asking, but I don&#8217;t have anything against Rahm Emanuel specifically.  I said he is not my favorite guy, by which I meant that he is a liberal and I am a conservative.  I do like the family duties comment and I&#8217;m ready to give him a chance.  As Eric Russell intimated, I think it may be a good thing if he is in there when Israel is on the line.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geoff if you can raise enough stink about it before it&#039;s announced you might be able to stop it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff if you can raise enough stink about it before it&#8217;s announced you might be able to stop it.</p>
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		<title>By: mfranti</title>
		<link>http://www.newcoolthang.com/index.php/2008/11/the-obamanation-of-desolation/576/comment-page-1/#comment-270060</link>
		<dc:creator>mfranti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel

Rahm Emanuel is interesting guy. I just heard him publicly state he had to discuss the position of chief of staff with his wife and make sure he could fulfill his family duties with his new job.  get&#039;s a gold star from me in that department 

so what is is about him you don&#039;t like? He&#039;s pro business and willing to piss folks off.]]></description>
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<p>Rahm Emanuel is interesting guy. I just heard him publicly state he had to discuss the position of chief of staff with his wife and make sure he could fulfill his family duties with his new job.  get&#8217;s a gold star from me in that department </p>
<p>so what is is about him you don&#8217;t like? He&#8217;s pro business and willing to piss folks off.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m curious how Emanuel will affect Obama&#039;s policies with Iran. With or without the talks Obama speaks of, I sense that within the next four years, he&#039;s going to be forced to make a decision about whether or not to support an Israeli air strike on Iranian targets. I would imagine that having Emanuel in the room when those decisions are being made would make a difference on some level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious how Emanuel will affect Obama&#8217;s policies with Iran. With or without the talks Obama speaks of, I sense that within the next four years, he&#8217;s going to be forced to make a decision about whether or not to support an Israeli air strike on Iranian targets. I would imagine that having Emanuel in the room when those decisions are being made would make a difference on some level.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say wait until he actually makes an appointment to that post before getting worked up over it Clark.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say wait until he actually makes an appointment to that post before getting worked up over it Clark.</p>
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