Comments on: What Was Mormon Thinking? Or, 30+ Chapters on War Followed By One on 200 Years of Peaceful Utopia?!?

By: Clark

Clark — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 20:55:49 +0000

Not the appropriate thread, but you might want to read this FARMS paper on that. There's no direct record of such a vision but a lot of second hand summaries.

By: Christopher Cavan

Christopher Cavan — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 19:20:17 +0000

I was wondering if there is any mention of Joseph’s vision of a whole room of Nephite records along here somewhere or if only Mormon had access to these?

By: Doc

Doc — Thu, 15 May 2008 17:45:14 +0000

(apologies, threadjack to follow)
Clark,
The problem with non universal health care is that you have already made the decision to ration by social class or how much money you have. There has got to be something better than that. Also, I wouldn’t be so sure the quality was what you claim. Check this out.

–end threadjack, carry on

By: Jacob J

Jacob J — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:54:46 +0000

V the K,

I don’t know, I find the first 43 chapters of Alma to be pretty good. Plenty of oomph for me.

By: V the K

V the K — Tue, 13 May 2008 17:19:48 +0000

I read recently where Gene Roddenberry’s concept for Star Trek: The Next Generation was that there would be no conflict in the series. And scripts written for the first season were to eliminate conflict as a dramatic device.

Remember how awful the first season of TNG was?

It’s just an aspect of humanity that we find conflict more interesting than peace. The record-keepers of the time were similarly affected. 200 years of marriage records, birth records, crop records, just didn’t have the Oomph that made for powerful scripture.

By: Lisa B

Lisa B — Fri, 09 May 2008 00:36:37 +0000

I used to have issues w/ the violence, gore, sexism, and evil in the scriptures but then it occurred to me that we live in a violent, gory, sexist, and evil world, and whitewashed scriptures wouldn’t give us much material to either liken unto our fallen selves, prepare us for life in the world, or help us cope with the onslaught ofevil in these “last days” whichBoM prophets ostensibly foresaw. I would guess that Nephi’s prophecies–as Isaiah’–are multi-level as Elder Oaks (in a Scriptures as Urim & Thumim Ensign article years back) and I’m sure others have discussed.

By: Manuel

Manuel — Thu, 08 May 2008 06:17:39 +0000

[Editor: Inflammatory political rhetoric deleted. (Take it to Council of Fifty)] I wish the Book of Mormon was more spiritual and less violent. The images that some BoM passages create in my mind, are beyond R rated movies.

By: clark

clark — Thu, 08 May 2008 02:38:43 +0000

Got it, thanks Clark. Iâ€™ll be interested to hear if they had universal healthcare.

Yeah, but given the abilities of the time that was probably worse than the universal health care in SLC in 1860.

Seriously the problem with universal health care is deciding how to ration. Not much of a problem when there isn’t much to ration.

By: Jacob J

Jacob J — Wed, 07 May 2008 21:08:30 +0000

Matt W, Hopefully someone who is up on their BofM scholarship will stumble along and help me out. The best I can come up with for a starting place is this book review of Metcalfe's New Approaches. See expecially the sections under the headings The Dictation Sequence and Nonrandom Sequences of Lexical Variants for the question at hand, but the whole review is interesting.

By: Matt W.

Matt W. — Wed, 07 May 2008 19:43:16 +0000

I’d be interested in sources on the translation order debates, if you can dig, Jacob. I’ve always been sort of fuzzy on that piece of our history.