Comments on: My Beef with a Year Supply of Food

By: marv thompson

marv thompson — Wed, 09 Mar 2011 07:46:30 +0000

If ye are prepared, ye shall not fear

http://www.preparedness101.blogspot.com/ There is always the chance that we will not have to eat one bite of our stored food.When the last group of saints were driven out of Nauvoo,they crossed the frozen Mississippi and set up camp. They were cold, tired and hungry but God took care of them as he did with those who fled from Egypt. As the saints sat around the camp fires ,a flock of quail walked into camp and were killed and eaten by the saints.We store food because we are commanded to do so by a prophet. We may need to feed our non Mormon neighbors as well as ourselves,this has happened in many crisis before.

By: Adrianus Hendrik van Herp

Adrianus Hendrik van Herp — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:36:12 +0000

From Wikipedia:
Quote: “The ardeas affected included 4.5 million people. Butter disappeared after October 1944. The supply of vegetable fats dwindled to a miniscule seven-month supply of 1.3 liters per person. At first 100 grams of cheese were allotted every two weeks; the meat coupons became worthless. The bread ration had already dropped from 2,200 to 1,800 and then to 1,400 grams per week. Now it fell to 1,000 grams in October, and by April 1945 to 400 grams a week. Together with one kilogram of potatoes, this then formed the entire weekly ration. The black market increasingly ran out of food as well, and with the gas and electricity and heat turned off, everyone was very cold and very hungry” Unquote.

Give this a go for 8/9 months and see if you will still think about other people. I have seen the dead people who died of starvation.
I have seen many things but I prefer not to talk about them as they affect me too much. I don’t talk about the past. But I came across this Forum and felt it was my duty to part with my experiences.
My generation is the last who will be eye-witnesses.

By: Calvin

Calvin — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:44:29 +0000

Calvin Holloway Says:

I believe that you are missing several important elements in your writing. The primary reason for saving a years worth of food other than self-preservation for yourself and family, is to be able to help others…clear and simiple. Because most people are too ignorant about what is going on around them, few will be storing and saving up for ‘rainy days’. The second primary reason is that when we go into inflationary periods, (food is currently rising at a rapid pace), money buys much less today as it bought yesterday. It offers you a better return on your money than putting it in the bank, and having to withdraw it to put food on the table. That same food could have possibly been 30-50% cheaper a year prior if you had stored it…leaving you to spend your money on things that have not inflated so rapidly. Things change, but history repeats itself. You should read the book by Strauss & Howe called The Fourth Turning…you will then see that this is a cycle and you had better be prepared. Oh, by the way, I am not Mormon, but I see tons of logic in their ideals of being prepared. I see very few of their members living in gov’t housing and standing in line for hand-outs…a model for the rest of us.

By: Adrianus Hendrik van Herp

Adrianus Hendrik van Herp — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 07:53:42 +0000

I have read most of the comments here. I am not of your Church but I am human.
I was 6 years of age when Germany invaded Holland and 11 when they left. Even before the war certain foods such as dried peas were already available only by coupon. Did my parents or anybody else we knew store food? A resounding ‘NO’. I was 11 before I consciously tasted bananas, oranges, chocolate etc. But that is of no concern. I would advise anybody who wants to prepare for unseen events to go to Wikipedia and search for ‘Dutch famine’. There are things we cannot foresee such as the food being available but not allowed to be distributed. There is a story to that why it was not allowed but it is not important in the context of this forum. And yet, although my wife went through the same thing she does not believe in storing food, God will provide. I am not a Christian but am pretty familiar with the Bible and I can’t remember any place where it says to be irresponsible. So I am going to sell some assets and buy food. Money is useless. Gold, silver, tobacco, coffee are the things for bargaining. And with all due respect to those people who think they can stick it out to obey the Words of any Holy Book, you will be surprised how fast the principles go away when you have had a daily food ration of 500-800 calories/day for a month!! And just because you get those rations does not mean you can eat the stuff as hungry as you are. The smell turns you off and when you look at the ‘hot water soup’ and see the garbage floating in it you have to eat with your eyes closed.
I hope you will obey the commands of your Church and don’t make excuses. For those living in a cold climate try to get some wood. We only had half matured peat. No electricity. Only water. And fleas and lice.
This scene where you will need the food is not far away. I have been telling my family since 2008 that it would be 3-4 years away. I think 2011 will be painful and 2012 will be deadly. Ironically in those days there was respect for other people’s property, not much stealing. But things have changed and when you see the food intended to keep your children alive about to disappear before your eyes I am sure that the majority of us would not hesitate to pull the trigger. IF WE HAVE A WEAPON!!!

By: Ed S

Ed S — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 06:00:11 +0000

If you freeze your wheat / rice / beans / flour for a few days, you will kill any weevil eggs — and avoid ruining the food. Then, try to keep it away from high heat if possible.

So I have read, and so I practice.

By: Jacob J

Jacob J — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:36:53 +0000

I guess it comes down to this, store enough food for the amount of time you would like to live.

Oh great, now I need a lifetime supply of food?!? That’s even farther out of whack from the prophetic counsel than my post was.

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:20:31 +0000

This is the most dangerous counsel I’ve ever heard. A year supply of money in this economy IS perishable! You operate on the false premise that after 3 months all will be well in Zion. I guess it comes down to this, store enough food for the amount of time you would like to live. After 4 months if the government hasn’t stepped in (because they can’t), the stores are empty (so much for your “year supply of cash”)you will perish. Why do we as members, who profess to have prophets, seers, and revelators amoungst us, choose to try and second guess them? I believe we should put together our preparedness items by following the Spirit. If the Spirit tells you to store money, you should follow that prompting. But each family will be different. I also feel what the Spirit will probably not prompt you too far away from prophetic counsel. If you are being steered away from that counsel, please make sure where your inspiration is coming from!
Interesting speculation of why we have received this counsel. I hope for your sake you are right! As for fuel, I have stored wood for a year, and gasoline for a month. Hope to have propane for a year soon. Current counsel doesn’t seem to discount previous counsel. Please be careful with this thinking.

By: Pat

Pat — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:09:53 +0000

Did you know that the government is giving California farmers only 1/10th of the water they need for their crops? They do this, ostensibly, to save an endangered fish. (Obviously, officials are smarter than this and do, in fact, know what they are doing.) California farmers supply half the nation’s food.

Power has many ways and means for expanding its reach. (“Ve hav vays…”) The people have many ways of remaining (insistently) asleep. Governments know this, too.

Given how many people our government is killing, raping, disabling, etc. on a daily basis in various places around the world, on behalf of corporate profits (oil pipelines, geopolitical dominance are their real motives), it is no surprise we have threats from without, as well. What else could we expect? Have the people of the world no right to object to what we do to them?

Under these circumstances, I’m inclined to vote for barrels full of money, as well. While all the natives are being brought to defend those who arranged for their misery, I intend to protect my family by getting them out of here.

At this point, I regret mostly that our children and grandchildren will bear the brunt of our folly. It is not they who deserve it.

By: A thinker

A thinker — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:33:15 +0000

Recommended reading: Country Living by Ellen G. White

By: greg

greg — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:16:36 +0000

You can’t eat money. And when the dollar and all fiat currencies ultimately collapse food will be much better to have than worthless paper. Now if you convert some of that money into gold and silver along with your years supply of food then you are on to something.
I have a years supply of food, my own source of power and a 2 year supply of gold and silver at todays bargain prices. Since the price of food is going up I am actually making a return on that like an investment which I can eat. And since the dollar is dropping against my gold my purchasing power of my gold is also increasing.
Get into food and gold. You won’t regret it.