By the way, BHodges, you said:
“BTW I just finished listening to your long conversation with Aaron Shaf of the fluffy bunny nice-nice club. Well played.”

Where can I hear that audio?

Thanks fellas.

. . . it is apparent that Mormon theology and cosmology involve mainly the following ideas, which include some ideas that are piercing implications derived from the revelations to the prophets.

- There is an infinite hierarchy of gods that rule over all existence as One God;

- God our Father is one of the infinite number of gods that rule over all existence as One God;

- God our Father is an embodied immortal being, with a perfect body of flesh and bones, as does the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ;

- The infinite hierarchy of gods unceasingly continue with the process of begetting gods in the whole of the infinite existence;

- The process of the begetting of gods by the already existing gods in the hierarchy involves the organization or the bringing forth of the essentially new spirit entities from the eternal and infinite chaos and also from the depths of the consciousness of the gods into the eternal and infinite cosmos – the abstractions and corporealizations caused by the gods bring forth the cosmic existence of new spirit entities;

- God our Father lives in the heavens of the cosmos – the great star Kolob being nearest to the throne of God our Father;

- God our Father owns a part of the infinite cosmos as his dominion amongst the gods, which dominion has a governing star called Kolob that governs a multitude of other stars and planets that includes the earth upon which we now stand;

- Each of the other gods also owns a part of the infinite cosmos as each god’s own dominion;

- The dominion of the greater gods cover the dominions of lesser gods, in so much as there are gods who are gods over other gods as suggested by the scriptures that clearly state that our “God is a God of gods…”);

- There is the eternal and infinite realm of the cosmos and also the eternal and infinite realm of the chaos;

- The gods obtain from the voidness of the chaos the already eternally existing primordial components that they use in the material creation of new worlds that then become integrated into the cosmos;

- There is a continuous composing of the elements out of the chaos, and these composed elements become the materials organized by the gods to create new worlds – and clearly, this is where the genesis formula provides the scientific support by its suggestion of the continuous formation of cosmic mass-energy into the cosmos out of the chaotic void-energy from the chaos;

- Also, we may as well include the identified fundamental self-existing principles as further evidentiary philosophical support to the Mormon cosmological and theological ideas presented by the prophets and the sacred scriptures;

- And, with our added understanding of the fundamental self-existing principles, especially the idea of the essence of intelligence as having fundamentally the input-process-output capabilities in both the realm of phenomena and the realm of noumena, we are now readily enlightened regarding the teachings of the prophets on the idea that there is intelligence in all things (both the things that act and the things that are merely acted upon) in the cosmos, and also on the idea that God’s ‘power and influence’, the light of truth, subsists in all things and indeed permeates all things in the cosmos.

The ebook from which the above quote was taken discusses philosophical and scientific views that support Mormon doctrine. It is a bit speculative. But it offers a rather new treatment of Mormon doctrine.

It would be interesting to learn what you people here have to say about the above ideas from the ebook.

For instance if free will is eternal with human souls then even Lucifer could freely choose to repent some day.

Any comments come to mind as being worth pointing out? Maybe we could post on them individually. (Or you could guest post on them if you would like)

My word, if Samuel Wattles didn’t just kill this thing, hehe1. I likes.

This discussion is pretty good; there were about a dozen important comments in the whole 233 that deserve more than oblivion in this thread. They identify the key issues, many of the key positions, and overall nail the jell-o down just long enough to smell its flavor. Oh well!

Looking forward to completing it.