It is a quote from JJ Dewey’s teachings. Apparently after he got Ex’d he had some “followers” or “fans” (often referred to as “Keysters”), have been listening in and spreading the message.

Well this friend of mine has family who really dig him and his ideas have since left the church and are now spreading the “truth”.

Here are some websites (warning they must spend a lot of money on webdesign):

http://www.greaterthings.com/JJDewey/Eternal_Lives/

http://www.freeread.com/

I personally like the appeal to the idea that we will receive more revelations when we are ready for more. I think of us like Joshua’s army in the city of Ai. We need to collectively be better. I think we are perpetually working on that.

Of course once someone starts preaching their personal speculations as The Truth they are crossing a line.

I have come across an individual that teaches this quite nicely. Here is what he says:

As I pondered more I saw how reincarnation was
a master piece of a giant jigsaw puzzle that threw
light on the entire scene. I began to see how little
we really know. It is like the story of the three
blind men and the elephant. One grabs a leg and
says “I perceive that the elephant is like a tree.”
The second grabs the trunk and states: “No, no
the elephant is like a large hose.” The third grabs
the tail and says: “you’re both wrong. The
elephant is like a rope.” Actually, all three men
were right, but because they only had a portion of
the truth they had an entirely wrong idea of the
whole elephant. This is the way it is with us. That
portion that we have is correct, but we as a people
have an entirely wrong idea of what the whole
elephant looks like. The Lord has said “I shall also
speak unto ALL NATIONS of the earth and
THEY SHALL WRITE IT.” II Nephi 29:12 The
Lord has indeed spoken to all nations of the earth
and they have written it, but because that portion
describes the tail, trunk or ear of the elephant and
does not agree with the leg that we have we rise
up and condemn them as being of the devil. The
key to judge was given by Moroni: “Wherefore,
all things which are good cometh of God.” Moroni
7:12 Read all of Moroni chapter seven and you
will have a good idea of how to find the “best
books” that Joseph Smith was commanded to
search out.

According to them only one has achieved
immortality: “That thou keep this commandment
without spot unrebukeable, until the appearing of
our Lord Jesus Christ. Which in his times he shall
shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the
King of kings, and Lord of lords; WHO ONLY
HATH IMMORTALITY, dwelling in a light which
no man can approach unto…” I Tim 6:16. This is
indeed an amazing scripture for it plainly tells us
that only the Christ possesses immortality or the
Greek ATHANASIA which means literally
“Deathlessness” and is only found three places in
the scriptures, none of which conflict with the
above. Why if this scripture is true it would mean
that those who were resurrected with the Christ
are not yet immortal and will die again. That also
means that, at least up to the time of Timothy, no
one else had experienced an immortal
resurrection as Jesus did. That means that there is
more than one type of resurrection as is plainly
manifest in the scripture: “Others were tortured
not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain
a BETTER RESURRECTION.” Heb 11:35. Also
there are three Greek words from which the word
“resurrection” is translated. Putting all the pieces
of the puzzle together we can safely say that only
the highest resurrection produces immortality
and man must pass through numerous lifetimes
and “receive not a fullness at first… but continue
from grace to grace (life to life), until he receive a
fullness.” D&C 93:12-13. We must do as Jesus did
and progress from life to life until we become like
unto: “a perfect man, unto the measure of the
stature of the fullness of Christ.” Eph 4:13 Then
we may step forward ourselves and be like the
savior as we have been commanded (Matt 5:48)
and become the savior of an age: “That you may
come unto the Father in my name, and in due
time (after many lifetimes) receive of his fullness.” D&C 93:19.

My mind reflects back now to another curiosity in
Mormon doctrine caused by a lack of information.
The Church believes that many of us will go to
the celestial kingdom and there become Gods and
have spirit children and eventually create our
own worlds and people them. Then the people on
those worlds will pray to us and worship us as
Gods. Since the course of God is “one eternal
round” I Nephi 10:19 that means that the course
of God in the past will be like that of the future.
Taking this into account it means that our God at
one time lived on another world like this. This is
recognized by Mormon doctrine since Lorenzo
Snow said “as man is God once was.” Now the
question arises that when God was on this other
world was he the Savior of that world, or was he
an Apostle, or maybe he was just an Elder who
was a faithful home teacher. Then too he may
have died as a baby and only breathed a few
breaths. Maybe he was born during a Millennium
and knew no sin. Let’s suppose that God was a
typical member of the Church in His day. He had
to spend most of his life just earning a living. ‘He
paid his tithes and offerings and did his home
teaching and obeyed his Bishop. He never had
any opportunity to be a savior, he would have
never dreamed of comparing himself to such.
Finally, he died and went off to the spirit world
and there by some mysterious process learned
everything necessary to be a God. Now he is up
there in heaven and we worship him. The
question I now have is would not God feel
humiliated to have a Son like Jesus who showed
him up so much when he came down for his life?
If this were the case then Jesus did ten times as
good in his earth life as his Father did. How can I
show due respect to a God that has not
experienced all the tribulation of earth life that I
have? Such a God could not succor me in every
time of need. One can only have a very limited
number of experiences and trials in one life. Each
person I meet can only understand a portion of
my problems because only a portion of his
problems are similar to mine. What right did God
have to command Abraham to take the life of his
son if he had not went through a similar
experience himself? What right did God have to
expect his son to be a savior if he had not done so
himself?
Let us suppose that ten million souls on God’s
original earth made it to the celestial kingdom
and became Gods. That would roughly mean that
we have one chance in ten million of having for
our god the person that was the savior of a world.
Chances would be our God is merely some Elder
that did his duty. but wait! The scriptures tell us
that we are the lucky ones! Our God was the
Savior of a world. Jesus said: “The Son can do
nothing of himself, but what HE SEETH THE
FATHER DO: for what things soever he doeth,
these also doeth the Son likewise. For the Father
loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that
himself doeth.” John 5:19-20 Here we have it! God
must have been a savior at one time for what
Jesus did when he was here was almost a carbon
copy of what he saw the Father did. Our God
then certainly does deserve our respect, but what
about the other Gods who were not Saviors? How
can their only begotten Sons say that they are
doing what their Fathers did? How could they
teach anyone else to be a Savior if they have not
learned how and proven it through an actual life
as a Savior themselves? They could not. To
become a God we must “overcome all things”
D&C 76:60 and “The last enemy that shall be
destroyed is death.” I Cor 15:26. Jesus overcame
all things and the last enemy he overcame was
death and after many lives it will be our last
enemy for we as yet have not overcome all things
and him “only hath immortality”. I Tim 6:16.
How could one possibly overcome all the
weaknesses of mortality in one life??? Many
believe that in some mysterious way we do not
understand we will overcome the weaknesses of
the flesh in the spirit. But how can this be so? If
one did not pay his tithing because he was
worried about feeding his family how can he
possibly gain the faith necessary to do this in the
spirit where he does not have to worry about
survival. One can only overcome the things of the
flesh IN THE FLESH. It is as Jesus said to his
disciples:
“And I will show it plainly as I showed it unto my
disciples as I stood before them in the flesh and
spake unto them saying: As ye have asked me
concerning the signs of my coming, in the day
when I shall come in my glory in the clouds Of
heaven, to fulfill the promises that I have made
unto your fathers. For as ye have looked upon the
long absence of your spirits from your bodies to
be a bondage, I wil1 show unto you how the day
of redemption shall come… D&C 45:16-17 Here
Jesus was talking to the disciples during his
mortal life and he commented on the apostles
grumbling about the hardship of their spirits
being separate from their bodies, obviously in the
past. But if that was their first life, when were
their spirits ever separated from their bodies and,
how did they know it was a bondage? If their
spirits had previously been separated from their
bodies then sometime in their past they occupied
other bodies. The disciples were merely
complaining about their lack of progress between
lifetimes!
The disciples like Abraham had lived numerous
lives as shown in the scriptures: “And Joshua said
unto the people, Thus saith the Lord God of
Israel, your father dwelt on the other side of the
flood in old time… (The other side of the flood
probably means before the days of the flood of
Noah) … And I took Abraham FROM THE
OTHER SIDE OF THE FLOOD, and led him
throughout all the land of Canaan…” Joshua 24:2-
3. This scripture certainly implies that Abraham
lived on the other side of the flood or before the
flood in a previous lifetime
It is as Joseph Smith said: We progress “from
grace to grace and exaltation to exaltation until
we attain the resurrection of the dead’ History of
the Church Vol 6:306 The resurrection talked
about here is not merely being “born again” or
reincarnating as many of the scriptures on the
resurrection are referring to, but he is referring to
the immortal state referred to by Paul when he
said “this mortal must put on immortality” I Cor
15:53. For most that is many lives down the road,
for according to Joseph Smith we must even be
exalted BEFORE we attain this resurrection.
Joseph had to cleverly disguise the doctrine for he
would have been butchered if he had publicly
introduced it.
John Taylor clearly pointed out the need to
overcome all things: “If any man or woman
expects to enter into the celestial kingdom of our
God without being tested to the very uttermost,
they have not understood the gospel. If there is a
weak spot in our nature, or if there is a fiber that
can be made to quiver or to shrink, we may rest
assured that it will be tested.” THE KINGDOM
OF GOD OR NOTHING page 345. “For everyone
shall be salted with fire.” Mark 9:49 “To him that
overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my
throne, even AS I ALSO OVERCAME, and am set
down with my Father in his throne.” Rev. 3:21
Clearly, then, we are to follow in the footsteps of
Jesus and eventually live the perfect life: “And he
that overcometh and keepeth my works unto the
end to him wil1 I give power over the nations..
EVEN AS I RECEIVED OF MY FATHER. Rev
2:26-27 “As my Father hath sent me, even so I
send you.” John 20:21. Finally God says: “Him
that over cometh I will make a pillar in the temple
of my God, AND HE SHALL GO NO MORE
OUT (Shall not have to be reborn) Rev 3:12
To show clearly that we only achieve immortality
after we achieve the status of the Christ we quote:
“For man is spirit. The elements are eternal, and
spirit and element, inseparably connected, receive
fullness of joy. And when separated, man cannot
receive fullness of joy.” D&C 93:33-34 Now I will
make a statement that is beyond refute: If a
fullness of joy is produced by an inseparable
connection of the body and spirit, and since those
in the lower kingdoms (telestial and terrestrial)
do not have fullness of joy then their spirits and
bodies ARE NOT inseparably connected and
must die again. Joseph Smith said something
similar to this. He said that in the lower kingdoms
that men would continue to suffer sickness and
affliction. If men continue to suffer disease then
death has to follow. Where there is corruption
there is always the disintegration of the form. The
scriptures are clear “Whatsoever temple (body) is
defiled, GOD SHALL DESTROY THAT
TEMPLE.” D&C 93:35. All those in the lower
kingdoms have sinned and defiled their temples
so they shall be destroyed. Furthermore I must
point out that a Fullness of joy which produces
immortality only comes in the presence of God:
“In thy presence is fullness of joy.” Psalms 16:11
“They shall inherit the kingdom of God…and their
joy shall be full forever.” II Nephi 9:18. Finally we
see that fullness of joy comes from living a life
like the Christ: “And for this cause ye shall have
fullness of joy; and ye shall sit down in the
kingdom of my Father; yea, your joy shall be full,
EVEN AS THE FATHER HATH GIVEN ME
FULLNESS OF JOY; AND YE SHALL BE EVEN
AS I AM…” III Nephi 28:10.
That there is a resurrection of corruption is
plainly set forth: “Whatsoever a man soweth, that
shall he also reap (Often in a future life). For he
that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh REAP
CORRUPTION (Greek PHTHORA means decay);
but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit
reap life everlasting.” Gal 6:7-8. The doctrine of
reincarnation was revealed to Joseph Smith near
the end of his life, but instead of calling it
reincarnation he called it “eternal lives”. D&C
132:25&55. The church has always assumed that
the reason the word “lives” is plural is because
more than one will achieve eternal life, or the
husband and wife together make eternal lives, but
this idea does not coincide with the scripture:
“But if she (Emma) will not abide this
commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do
all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will
bless HIM (singular) and multiply him and give
unto him an HUNDREDFOLD IN THIS WORLD,
of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters,
houses and lands, wives and children, and
crowns of ETERNAL LIVES IN THE ETERNAL
WORLDS.” D&C 132:55. Here the Lord was
definitely speaking to Joseph Smith alone, not
including his wife or anyone else and promised
him IN THIS WORLD (this earth existence) an
hundredfold of fathers and mothers (whoever
heard of having one hundred fathers and
mothers?) brothers and sisters, houses (know
anyone who lived in one hundred houses?) lands
(How could he live in one hundred countries in
one life?), wives and children (Joseph Smith never
had one hundred wives and children in this
world). Remember up to now the scripture deals
with “this World” or mortality so don’t say God is
referring to the next world. The scripture plainly
points out that only the last few words refers to
the next world: “And crowns of eternal lives
(plural) in the eternal worlds (plural). In other
words we will live many lives on many other
different earths, worlds far superior to this.
Instead of living on a Telestial earth like this we
will go to terrestrial and celestial worlds made of
matter whose atoms vibrate to a purer tone
whose nucleus of light shines through unfolded
electrons until the bodies shine like the sun where
there is no night. The highest glory we may
obtain in this Telestial world is to be “servants of
the Most High.” D&C 76:112. All the worlds you
see in the sky at night are of a Telestial order. The
higher worlds are in a light we cannot approach.

Interestingly, many of the American Indians
believed in reincarnation. The Dakota tribe taught
that man lived at least four lives and in between
those lives he lived with the Gods and received
instruction in magic and healing. Many of the
Indian medicine men claimed to remember past
lives. The Indian hunters did not believed they
actually killed an animal, but just deprived it of
its body for a short time. Often among the
Eskimos if there is an old man who knows he is
going to die he will find a young couple that he
likes and ask permission to be their future child.
If they accept he will give that couple his personal
things that he wants for his next life and then
wander off to die. There are numerous
occurrences where babies of such couples will
claim such articles as their own, and for a short
period of time have a recollection of the past life
associated with them.
All these things helped me to believe in
reincarnation, but I did not know it for sure until
the day I discovered that I had lived before. This
changed my whole life and outlook and opened
my eyes to a new world of seeing.
I was amazed and almost wished it wasn’t true,
but for once in my life I realized that an average
member of the church like myself may become
aware of the truth of many doctrines that neither
the prophet or the General authorities know
anything about.
All things which are written in our imperfect
language are subject to imperfection so I do not
claim my words to be infallible, but the essence of
what is written is true and if you read this with a
sincere heart prayerfully, really wanting to know
then the Holy Ghost will manifest the truth of it
to you. The promise in the Book of Mormon
pertains to all true works. Read Alma 32 and
D&C 9:7-9 and see if the doctrine of reincarnation
does not generate the feelings and results
described. You are commanded to “try the spirits
whether they are of God.” I John 4:1. Remember
you are not commanded to ignore the sprits or
claim they are from the devil, or to try and
destroy them, but “try them”. It is as Joseph Smith
said: “When was the time that I was ever
confounded?” This doctrine cannot be
confounded or proved wrong because it is true
and it is in the scriptures despite the efforts of the
Great and Abominable Church to remove all
reference to the doctrine. The truth cannot be
removed and darkness only lasts during the night
and then cometh the day and we see with a
perfect light.

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