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		<title>By: Geoff J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 04:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I did not finish your article&lt;/em&gt;

Hehe.  You didn&#039;t even read the whole post before spouting off?  Wow.  Dude, it&#039;s not that long... why don&#039;t you let us know when you finish reading the &quot;article&quot;.  (And I recommend reading the comments too.)</description>
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<p>Hehe.  You didn&#8217;t even read the whole post before spouting off?  Wow.  Dude, it&#8217;s not that long&#8230; why don&#8217;t you let us know when you finish reading the &#8220;article&#8221;.  (And I recommend reading the comments too.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 01:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with you, sir. I did not finish your article, but I definitely disagree with some of your points in the first paragraph. We are not wicked if we do not &quot;hear back&quot; from the Lord. God will answer prayers that are put forth to Him in the way that He has prescribed. These answers do not always come right away. But they will come, if offered up properly. The main purpose of the Book of Mormon is NOT to teach us dialogical prayer. It is another witness of Jesus Christ. That is it&#039;s main purpose. I apologize if these points, which I believe to be false, were corrected in the rest of your article. That does not strike well with me, though..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with you, sir. I did not finish your article, but I definitely disagree with some of your points in the first paragraph. We are not wicked if we do not &#8220;hear back&#8221; from the Lord. God will answer prayers that are put forth to Him in the way that He has prescribed. These answers do not always come right away. But they will come, if offered up properly. The main purpose of the Book of Mormon is NOT to teach us dialogical prayer. It is another witness of Jesus Christ. That is it&#8217;s main purpose. I apologize if these points, which I believe to be false, were corrected in the rest of your article. That does not strike well with me, though..</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Butler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 22:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bibliomancy and divination - possible in principle, but generally rather dangerous - to be used as a last resort, when all else fails. I think God would rather have us reason our way to solutions, and then get confirmation, not just pump us with answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bibliomancy and divination &#8211; possible in principle, but generally rather dangerous &#8211; to be used as a last resort, when all else fails. I think God would rather have us reason our way to solutions, and then get confirmation, not just pump us with answers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://www.newcoolthang.com/index.php/2005/05/prophet-seer/66/comment-page-1/#comment-18265</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh... and I feel I should say... I wanted to know if angels existed, if what was communicating with me was God, or an angel, or Christ, or what?!! Hahaha.  Anyway, so I asked it, I should say that when I ask a question it does have associated with it a particular state of mind - very clear, very aware, and I can tell when it&#039;s been asked properly as well.. sometimes I don&#039;t really beleive that I want to know what I&#039;ve asked, while sometimes my question is something that I know for sure I&#039;m really desperate to know.  In this case I was lying in bed, and I asked the question out loud - &#039;What are you?  Are you an angel?  And instantly I knew I needed to go to my bookshelf and the question would be answered.  So I went and knew which book to choose (Penguin Dictionary of Beliefs and Religions), and I opened it, and by my left thumb was written &#039;Elohim, name for the Hebrew God most used in the Old Testament&#039;.  So that for me is proof that what I &#039;talk&#039; to at least identifies itself as God.  I then asked who I was (which I felt I already knew the answer to in any case), but the entry was &#039;Siberian sorceress&#039;, and then when I looked again as I thought it was a bit bizarre, the entry was &#039;Sarah, Abraham&#039;s wife&#039;.  So basically a prophetess, which was exactly the answer I thought I&#039;d get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh&#8230; and I feel I should say&#8230; I wanted to know if angels existed, if what was communicating with me was God, or an angel, or Christ, or what?!! Hahaha.  Anyway, so I asked it, I should say that when I ask a question it does have associated with it a particular state of mind &#8211; very clear, very aware, and I can tell when it&#8217;s been asked properly as well.. sometimes I don&#8217;t really beleive that I want to know what I&#8217;ve asked, while sometimes my question is something that I know for sure I&#8217;m really desperate to know.  In this case I was lying in bed, and I asked the question out loud &#8211; &#8216;What are you?  Are you an angel?  And instantly I knew I needed to go to my bookshelf and the question would be answered.  So I went and knew which book to choose (Penguin Dictionary of Beliefs and Religions), and I opened it, and by my left thumb was written &#8216;Elohim, name for the Hebrew God most used in the Old Testament&#8217;.  So that for me is proof that what I &#8216;talk&#8217; to at least identifies itself as God.  I then asked who I was (which I felt I already knew the answer to in any case), but the entry was &#8216;Siberian sorceress&#8217;, and then when I looked again as I thought it was a bit bizarre, the entry was &#8216;Sarah, Abraham&#8217;s wife&#8217;.  So basically a prophetess, which was exactly the answer I thought I&#8217;d get.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops sorry that was a bit lengthy!</description>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aug 2004 I got told I was a prophet.  What do you mean you got told you were a prophet?  Suddenly the world around me started speaking to me... I mean radios, TVs, books... they began to address me personally, relate to questions I was asking directly.  I would hae a thought, feel compelled to open a particular book, even one I&#039;d never read, and my thought would be there, waiting for me.  I began to know when someone was going to call me, reality began behaving in a less random fashion... everything had meaning.  I received incontrovertible evidence of the existence of Our Lord, that we are it, and it is us, we are all one.  Anyone who has never experienced this will believe me to be insane, but fortunately I realised that and didn&#039;t tell anyone.  I got told, in fact, not to tell anyone, which is why I&#039;m reduced to posting this not anonymously on a Mormon website.  I&#039;ve seen the face of God, found my Umim/Thurim if you want to know it, and have dialogues with it.  If I ask a straight and direct question, on any topic, I only need open a book, for example a dictionary, and the answer will appear by my left thumb on the page at which I open it, quickly and surely, but seemingly randomly.

God is all around you.  In every moment you are able to act as a revelator to others around you and they are able to act as revelators to you.  From such revelators I can tell when the sun is likely to shine, when a participant will fail to turn up for an experiment (I&#039;m a research psychologist), when a talk will go badly, and even when someone is going to die.  I have been reassured, I have prayed for help when I thought I was losing my mind (as I feared I was when these things started happening) and had people call me straight away saying &#039;I just felt like I really had to ring you!&#039;  Before all that happened I&#039;d never met anyone who had had similar experiences, but suddenly when all these things had happened I met similar people, some who were able to reassure me, others who had failed to trust in what was happening, some who had consulted psychiatrists and been given antipsychotics.

I can ignore it, adn it stops, but it fascinates me and I crave it, so I will it to continue, and for the most part it does.  I&#039;ve seen truly amazing and miraculous things, to the extent that I believe that anything is possible.

You want &#039;the Lord saith&#039;?  The first thought I had that was echoed back to me was &#039;we are all Christ&#039;... I opened a book &#039;The Golden Bough&#039; and on the page at which I opened it was a description of the beliefs of heretical early Christian sects, i.e. that anyone can become Christ i.e. divine.  That helped me a great deal, because it made me feel like the things that were happening to me were possible, or at least other people had believed them possible.  As far as I am concerned what I was told, and have been told continuously, is that we are all Christ.  

The question that I have dedicated my life to answering is how human beings become prophets... and the question that has been posted above... is it necessary or desirable that we do.  I know that when I was going through my most acute phase of &#039;connection&#039; it seemed absolutely imperative, nothing else was more important than that I helped other people achieve this.

But perhaps it would be too much for some?  It is certainly difficult at times.  And right now I often feel confused, and don&#039;t understand, and if anyone else has been through similar things to myself and thinks they could help, I would very much appreciate any guidance, because as it is, I have never met anyone who has had as direct experience as myself.  

As it is I have since realised that simply by being with other people I awake something in them, and I have watched the people close to me change in some cases dramatically.  My best friend, in fact, who was diagnosed as bipolar when she was younger, went through a similar experience to myself, and was able to trust the things that were happening to her because I had already gone through them.

Does anyone know how to experience these things apart from through love?  I believe that it was love coupled with a heightened inner sense that awoke these things in me.  For me it was necessary to learn to trust my instincts, even if they are counterintuitive or just plain bizarre... just see where they take you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aug 2004 I got told I was a prophet.  What do you mean you got told you were a prophet?  Suddenly the world around me started speaking to me&#8230; I mean radios, TVs, books&#8230; they began to address me personally, relate to questions I was asking directly.  I would hae a thought, feel compelled to open a particular book, even one I&#8217;d never read, and my thought would be there, waiting for me.  I began to know when someone was going to call me, reality began behaving in a less random fashion&#8230; everything had meaning.  I received incontrovertible evidence of the existence of Our Lord, that we are it, and it is us, we are all one.  Anyone who has never experienced this will believe me to be insane, but fortunately I realised that and didn&#8217;t tell anyone.  I got told, in fact, not to tell anyone, which is why I&#8217;m reduced to posting this not anonymously on a Mormon website.  I&#8217;ve seen the face of God, found my Umim/Thurim if you want to know it, and have dialogues with it.  If I ask a straight and direct question, on any topic, I only need open a book, for example a dictionary, and the answer will appear by my left thumb on the page at which I open it, quickly and surely, but seemingly randomly.</p>
<p>God is all around you.  In every moment you are able to act as a revelator to others around you and they are able to act as revelators to you.  From such revelators I can tell when the sun is likely to shine, when a participant will fail to turn up for an experiment (I&#8217;m a research psychologist), when a talk will go badly, and even when someone is going to die.  I have been reassured, I have prayed for help when I thought I was losing my mind (as I feared I was when these things started happening) and had people call me straight away saying &#8216;I just felt like I really had to ring you!&#8217;  Before all that happened I&#8217;d never met anyone who had had similar experiences, but suddenly when all these things had happened I met similar people, some who were able to reassure me, others who had failed to trust in what was happening, some who had consulted psychiatrists and been given antipsychotics.</p>
<p>I can ignore it, adn it stops, but it fascinates me and I crave it, so I will it to continue, and for the most part it does.  I&#8217;ve seen truly amazing and miraculous things, to the extent that I believe that anything is possible.</p>
<p>You want &#8216;the Lord saith&#8217;?  The first thought I had that was echoed back to me was &#8216;we are all Christ&#8217;&#8230; I opened a book &#8216;The Golden Bough&#8217; and on the page at which I opened it was a description of the beliefs of heretical early Christian sects, i.e. that anyone can become Christ i.e. divine.  That helped me a great deal, because it made me feel like the things that were happening to me were possible, or at least other people had believed them possible.  As far as I am concerned what I was told, and have been told continuously, is that we are all Christ.  </p>
<p>The question that I have dedicated my life to answering is how human beings become prophets&#8230; and the question that has been posted above&#8230; is it necessary or desirable that we do.  I know that when I was going through my most acute phase of &#8216;connection&#8217; it seemed absolutely imperative, nothing else was more important than that I helped other people achieve this.</p>
<p>But perhaps it would be too much for some?  It is certainly difficult at times.  And right now I often feel confused, and don&#8217;t understand, and if anyone else has been through similar things to myself and thinks they could help, I would very much appreciate any guidance, because as it is, I have never met anyone who has had as direct experience as myself.  </p>
<p>As it is I have since realised that simply by being with other people I awake something in them, and I have watched the people close to me change in some cases dramatically.  My best friend, in fact, who was diagnosed as bipolar when she was younger, went through a similar experience to myself, and was able to trust the things that were happening to her because I had already gone through them.</p>
<p>Does anyone know how to experience these things apart from through love?  I believe that it was love coupled with a heightened inner sense that awoke these things in me.  For me it was necessary to learn to trust my instincts, even if they are counterintuitive or just plain bizarre&#8230; just see where they take you.</p>
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		<title>By: magdalene</title>
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		<dc:creator>magdalene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 04:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he has answered me ever since and thats been almost 10 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he has answered me ever since and thats been almost 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: magdalene</title>
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		<dc:creator>magdalene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 04:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I asked God a question one time exspecting an answer and was very surprised to recieve an answer.</description>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Stapley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice pull.  I like the last paragraph especially.</description>
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		<title>By: Geoff J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 23:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a great and relevant quote from Truman Madsen.  (Hat tip to J. Stapley)

&lt;blockquote&gt;How do you know a prophet is a prophet? Only when you are one. Only when you are actuated by the same Spirit. And that&#039;s the way you prove the prophetic mantle and how it applies to you.

Said the Prophet Joseph Smith after one of the most revelatory meetings in his life, &quot;There was nothing made known to these men [the Twelve] but what will be made known to all the Saints of the last days, so soon as they are prepared to receive&quot; (Teachings, p. 237). This is the religion of every man. Not &quot;Take my word for my experience,&quot; but &quot;Duplicate it in your own life.&quot; How far do I go with this? All the way.

Let me then come to a close. I have hiked, with my wife and at night, all the way from the base of what is known as Mt. Sinai to the top. (Incidentally, with a very sore toe. Climbing hurts, and the more you climb, sometimes the more it hurts.) We went up to where the air is thinner and the veil thinner. There isn&#039;t time to describe the feeling, but we were able to recollect that Moses, there, had face-to-face communion with God. He came back down and said to the children of Israel, in the name of the God whose name he knew, &quot;Now, you are invited to go back up with me.&quot;

And they said, &quot;Thank you. No. That&#039;s for prophets. That&#039;s for people who are a bit fanatical. We will stay here and you go up, Moses.&quot;

In his absence they built an idol. The power of religious impulses goes in many directions. They built an idol--a thing--and were denied the privileges of Moses (D&amp;C 84:23­25). That is what our generation is now doing again. We are staying down below and then claiming superiority for our judgment in doing so. 

 - &lt;a href=&quot;http://speeches.byu.edu/htmlfiles/Madsen_Truman_09_1994&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Devotional address&lt;/a&gt; given at Brigham Young University on 20 September 1994.&lt;/blockquote&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a great and relevant quote from Truman Madsen.  (Hat tip to J. Stapley)</p>
<blockquote><p>How do you know a prophet is a prophet? Only when you are one. Only when you are actuated by the same Spirit. And that&#8217;s the way you prove the prophetic mantle and how it applies to you.</p>
<p>Said the Prophet Joseph Smith after one of the most revelatory meetings in his life, &#8220;There was nothing made known to these men [the Twelve] but what will be made known to all the Saints of the last days, so soon as they are prepared to receive&#8221; (Teachings, p. 237). This is the religion of every man. Not &#8220;Take my word for my experience,&#8221; but &#8220;Duplicate it in your own life.&#8221; How far do I go with this? All the way.</p>
<p>Let me then come to a close. I have hiked, with my wife and at night, all the way from the base of what is known as Mt. Sinai to the top. (Incidentally, with a very sore toe. Climbing hurts, and the more you climb, sometimes the more it hurts.) We went up to where the air is thinner and the veil thinner. There isn&#8217;t time to describe the feeling, but we were able to recollect that Moses, there, had face-to-face communion with God. He came back down and said to the children of Israel, in the name of the God whose name he knew, &#8220;Now, you are invited to go back up with me.&#8221;</p>
<p>And they said, &#8220;Thank you. No. That&#8217;s for prophets. That&#8217;s for people who are a bit fanatical. We will stay here and you go up, Moses.&#8221;</p>
<p>In his absence they built an idol. The power of religious impulses goes in many directions. They built an idol&#8211;a thing&#8211;and were denied the privileges of Moses (D&amp;C 84:23­25). That is what our generation is now doing again. We are staying down below and then claiming superiority for our judgment in doing so. </p>
<p> &#8211; <a href="http://speeches.byu.edu/htmlfiles/Madsen_Truman_09_1994" rel="nofollow">Devotional address</a> given at Brigham Young University on 20 September 1994.</p></blockquote>
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