Comments on: Models of our Pre-Mortal Existence

By: Joseph Murphy

Joseph Murphy — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:42:34 +0000

Hello There friends

I posted my story at Yahoo.sight
Premortal existence of mine comes from being in heaven and I even have my own drawings to back it up.
But I am finding no one believes such events truely exist in the pre mortal world.
You would have to be there to see to believe.
I am at indigo children posted as well.
my entire story is there.
The Mormons are fine people But I hope they will believe my story is for real
Because they are the only ones who I thought would understand my beliefs true expierence.
I injured my self for life in my pre mortal existence and have living birth defects in the legs to prove it.
But some folks that is not enough either.

Don’t tell god it is a non believers world for him to but out.
Open your minds and read your bible on pre mortal existence.And war in heaven.
It is real it hapened.
JM

By: Joseph Murphy

Joseph Murphy — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:13:50 +0000

I am living proof that there is a pre mortal world in heaven.
That the war in heaven did hapen.
It brought me to heart aick and to tears to see the after math.
My story titled
Now go and teach the people
Author Joseph Albert Murphy
Is posted at Amazon.com
47 pages with drawings done from memory.
to back up my story of life before birth on earth.
Joe

By: Charles Whicker

Charles Whicker — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:25:24 +0000

The concept of multiple mortalities is not necessarily contradictory to the scriptural teaching that the spirit and the body will never be separated again. Judging from divine patterns, I believe the mortal and spirit body are the same, but in different states. When the Gods condescend to a mortal state under the law of sacrifice, to show forth an example to their spirit children in mortality, they carry with them, all along, their eternal body, never separating from it. Each time they receive a new resurrection they are added upon, not with a new body (for the scripture doesn’t say that), but with added glory (see D&C 88:22-28).

By: New Cool Thang » Who were the inhabitants of all those other worlds?

New Cool Thang » Who were the inhabitants of all those other worlds? — Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:30:16 +0000

[...] ches of spirits but rather by us. I attribute it to Heber C. Kimball because of the quote I mentioned over in an earlier post about life and death being like being awake and sleeping. He says every day we [...]

By: Geoff Johnston

Geoff Johnston — Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:46:13 +0000

Hanna, George will be happy to hear that because he was the one that authored that particular model (at least he's the one that explained it to me.) We are having a discussion on the subject over at the My Turn on Earth thread. I might note, though, that in an eternal situation, wherever we live is at the apex of a chiasmus... I mean we will always have an eternal pre-now existence followed by an eternal post-now existence right?

By: Hanna

Hanna — Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:44:54 +0000

I rather like C, just because it puts us literally in the meridian of time, and implies some sort of divine chiasmus, i.e. we have existed forever, then we lived in a spirit earth, now we live on earth, we will live in the spirit world, and then we will continue to exist forever (although in various degrees).

By: Christian Y. Cardall (TSM)

Christian Y. Cardall (TSM) — Thu, 31 Mar 2005 01:56:37 +0000

Geoff, thanks for pointing me here to the HCK quote. That was indeed the one I was remembering.

The worlds-without-end idea is certainly interesting. I don’t know how much we can say about it unless the current leaders say more.

By: Susan Malmrose

Susan Malmrose — Thu, 24 Mar 2005 01:07:19 +0000

Some of this stuff gives me a brainache.

I was told in my PB that in the pre-existence I convinced many who were undecided to undertake mortality. I figure a lot of those people are my (completely crazy) relatives.

I think rather than an E) I’d say I’m more likely to combine elements of most of the options, except for D), which doesn’t seem like it has any scriptural basis (and I don’t really see how the quote you used refers to different lives on different worlds). Mainly I just can’t stand the thought of having to do this over and over again. :)

By: Geoff Johnston

Geoff Johnston — Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:10:09 +0000

Ha! Well I must have been feeling a bit sarcastic as I wrote that one, Rusty. I do admit I think model A) is full of all sorts of logical holes and is largely incompatible with the whole of our scriptures and with the world we see around us.

By: Rusty

Rusty — Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:43:42 +0000

I’m down with Ronan’s e) we haven’t a clue.

It’s funny, when I was reading your a), I couldn’t help but hear you say it in a very sarcastic way. Maybe because it’s so simplistic, but I’m just tellin’ ya what I heard!